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Post by Webagent007 on Feb 18, 2004 9:06:30 GMT -5
Now you have to guess that what strategy you will adopt to make computer always win that game. There must be a strategy to get to a strategy to make the pc always win rather then guess, but I cant really see it lol. strategy would be to try and leave the pc 1 stick and prevent the pc to leave you 1 stick, so because the max you can take is 6 you would need to leave the pc a minimum of 8 sticks on your move before your last move (you leave pc 8, pc takes minimal 1 or max 6, no matter what you will always be able to leave the pc 1 stick wich makes the pc the looser), but it depends if thats possible on the move before that and what the pc will do before that.. I'm to lazy to calculate all the options lol. probably the result of the pc's pick and yours would have to be 7.. because 7 x 7 = 49 and you want to leave the pc 1 stick. example: you pick 1 (you always start with 1) and the pc picks 3, thats a total of 4, then you have to pick 3 to make that 7, then its pc's turn.. whatever pc picks, you make it 7 in your next turn. (I didnt try this out lol.. so I dont know if its correct )
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Post by »¤§£¥¤« on Feb 18, 2004 10:26:43 GMT -5
that sounds reasonable to me what ever you choose the pc should take sticks to total up to 7 for that round of turns. Thus the last stick would always be picked up by the first one made to start the round...
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Post by Webagent007 on Feb 19, 2004 13:56:37 GMT -5
that just has got to be the right answer!, I think Sly won this one lol
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Post by ‡»ß¤®ñ 2B Wî£Ð«‡ on Feb 19, 2004 17:08:08 GMT -5
Bravo ;D «¤§£¥¤», Yes that's the exact answer. And doing that the computer will beat human everytime. Technically, Webagent007's calculation was fine but she was just making wrong combination of both PC and Human's turns. «¤§£¥¤» got exact combination. Anyway to me both of you are winners ;D. Okay who's asking next question?
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Post by nita on Feb 28, 2004 21:31:09 GMT -5
Go for it sly.............ask the next one ..
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Post by ‡»ß¤®ñ 2B Wî£Ð«‡ on Mar 1, 2004 18:05:14 GMT -5
May be I am host here ;D. Okay here's another riddle. There are 8 coins and they are same in shape and 7 of them are equal in weight but one of them is slightly less in weight than other 7 coins. Now you have a measuring machine and you have to find that less weighted coin but only by using the measuring machine two times not more than 2 times. Happy nappy guessing ;D.
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Post by Webagent007 on Mar 6, 2004 13:32:12 GMT -5
what does the measuring machine measure exactly or do you have to think of something yourself?
I ask because in jewellery school where I learned how to determine gem stones we had alot of diffrent way's and maschines to measure lol.
For example if I throw all the coins into water the last one to hit the bottem would be the lightest one.
(We use water to for example detect fake diamonds between real ones if you have a pile of them and you want to do it quick, you can tell by the way the light breaks and you can see better when they are under the water, cirkonia is double breaking and diamond is kubic, meaning single break in poor english lol)
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Post by ‡»ß¤®ñ 2B Wî£Ð«‡ on Mar 6, 2004 17:59:23 GMT -5
Actually from measuring machine I meant to say a weight machine. And the weight machine have two sides where you can (for example) put half coins on one side and half on other. I think that's a big hint now. And remember you have to use that machine only two times to know which coin is less in weight.
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Post by Webagent007 on Mar 7, 2004 4:23:46 GMT -5
ok well I can weight 4 on each side, the lightest 4 contains the lighter coin.
So I would have 4 coins and the weight machine only 1 time to use.. so 2 on each side and the lightest pair would contain the lighter coin..
but then I cant use the machine no more so I dont know how to be able to tell wich of the 2 is the lighter one lol, I dont see a more efficient way then to split those 8 in half, and if there isnt for 8 then there isnt for 4.. I dont see the trick lol
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Post by ‡»ß¤®ñ 2B Wî£Ð«‡ on Mar 9, 2004 17:06:35 GMT -5
There is a way. Another hint is that only restriction to this riddle is that you can use the weighting machine twice only. Believe me there is a way.
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Post by Webagent007 on Mar 9, 2004 23:51:50 GMT -5
allright, I have used it twice so I get my neighber to use it his first time and tell him wich 2 he has to weight, the lightest one will be the lighter coin lol.
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Post by ‡»ß¤®ñ 2B Wî£Ð«‡ on Mar 10, 2004 17:10:01 GMT -5
Lolz . Here's a lesson, don't ever give your coins to your neighbour . Okay may be it's time to give you guys a right answer (people are not taking intrest in this game now ). SolutionPut 3 coins on one side of that weight machine and other 3 on other side. And put remaining 2 coins in your pocket. Now after analyzing the 6 coins with weight machine, if the machine says that they are equal in weight then put all 6 of them in your second pocket and put the 2 coins (which were in your 1st pocket) on each side of that weight machine. That's how you can find out the light coin. And if one side of weight machine isn't heavy (when we were weighting the first 6 coins) then it means that the coins on other (heavy) side and the coins in your 1st pocket are equal in weight and it also means that the 3 coins on the light side of weighting machine contain the light coin. Now put the three coins (which were on heavy side of machine) in your 1st pocket (now there are total 5 coins in your 1st pocket). And for the remaining 3 coins, put 2 of them on each side of weighting machine and put 1 of them into your 2nd pocket. If the two coins on weighting machine are equal in weight then it means that the coin in your 2nd pocket is the lightest one. Or if the two sides of macine aren't equal in weight then the coin on light side is the lightest one ;D. See, that's how we can find out light coin by using the weight machine twice. Nice effort though Webagent007, hope you have honest neighbours lolz . So you are asking next question right? Best regards .
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Post by Webagent007 on Mar 21, 2004 3:58:10 GMT -5
I guess, I'm not into riddles much lately though but I remember one funny game where some imagination and improvising is required, it will form a story but its told by all of us, just finish my sentence and make a start for the next.
The wind was blowing hard outside and blew half of my sunscreen off, so I went outside and....
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Post by »¤§£¥¤« on Mar 21, 2004 5:12:55 GMT -5
began to look for all the pieces. As I was gathering them, I was suprised....
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Post by ‡»ß¤®ñ 2B Wî£Ð«‡ on Mar 21, 2004 12:35:59 GMT -5
to see that there was noone out there but me. I looked everywhere but I couldn't find anyone, not even an animal. So I started thinking that......
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